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Does the Brady Quinn Trade Hurt Jimmy Clausen’s Draft Stock?

By |2018-10-25T20:45:00+00:00March 21st, 2010|3 Comments

Five short years ago, the football world kissed the ground that Charlie Weis walked on, tossed rose petals at his feet and marveled at the fact that he was the offensive mind that built Tom Brady into part-human, part-machine, all quarterback legend as the New England Patriots brought home three Super Bowl rings.

Shortly thereafter, Weis was leading the Notre Dame Irish football program into mediocrity.

But at first, it wasn’t half bad.  As Charlie went, so did the legendary status of the Notre Dame quarterback – building each in a Brady-like fashionbrady-quinn-notre-dame

First up was Brady Quinn – loaded with Popeye-like arms and superhero-like numbers (35 TD and 5 INT in his senior season at Notre Dame).

Due to his ties to Weis, It came as no surprise that Brady Quinn would emerge as “the next big thing” in the NFL – what with the numbers he put up in college, the skill set he appeared to have (strong arm, athletic and all the intangibles) and the confidence he showed on the field.

But, Brady Quinn never took off – and a few short days ago, the Cleveland Browns shipped him to Denver in a trade.

So that opens up a new can of worms – as Jimmy Clausen (6’3” 223 lb) enters this NFL Draft as another talented Notre Dame QB product built up by Charlie Weis.  Should he be coupled with Quinn, or be an entity of his own?

Will Brady Quinn’s lack of NFL success hurt Jimmy Clausen’s draft stock?

The answer is simple: No way.

Jimmy Clausen is his own player.  In fact, if anything is going to hurt Jimmy Clausen, it’s himself – not Charlie Weis, not Brady Quinn… not anyone else.

With Clausen – like everyone – there are pluses and minuses.

First, there are the positives.  Jimmy Clausen, as described by Rivals.com, “showcases good timing and anticipation on his routes and consistently gets the ball out on time.”  Also mentioned, is that Clausen is solid “going though his progressions and possesses the ability to scan the entire field and work his way through his reads.”  Finally, “Clausen snaps the ball out of his hands quickly and is an accurate passer.”

But if I were a GM in the NFL, I’d look at the whole body of work.  There are a bevy of quarterbacks with intangibles that Clausen has – and a number that show better leadership.

Quarterback is a position made for a quality leader.  When you think of Clausen, you think of an arrogant kid showing up in a stretch Hummer to announce that he’ll play for Notre Dame.

I picture a kid that got socked by a fan outside a restaurant (and likely not for “innocent bystander reasons”).  You picture a shiner the size of the number of losses posted by the Irish during his final season.

So, if I’m an NFL GM – one working in a time where players like Ben Roethlisberger are making as many headlines off the field as on – I’m turning the other cheek.


Because Jimmy Clausen rates out as a high selection and there are plenty of other options available that may not match the talent level, but have high  just high character.

So when someone comes up to me and asks if a GM should hesitate to take a Weis product after the first college prototype failed – that being Brady Quinn – I say no.

But when someone asks me if I would avoid a high draft pick on Charlie’s second QB talent in Jimmy Clausen, I would say yes.


Don’t buy into it coming from me?  What about from Mike Holmgren, President of the Cleveland Browns?  In an interview with Tony Grossi of the Cleveland Plain Dealer, Holmgren said of Clausen: “I wish I liked him more.  You know how you have a type of player that you like?  It’s not scientific.  People like him a lot.  He’ll go high.  But it would be hard for me [to take him].”

If a team wants to spend a first rounder on a quarterback, then it trade up for Oklahoma’s Sam Bradford.  Bradford has the high talent ceiling with top-notch character and elite leadership skills.  Toss in work ethic, too.  Look at all the improvements we’ve seen from Bradford when rehabbing from last season’s shoulder injury.

On top of that, one could wait and take a guy like Colt McCoy in the second round.  Sure, McCoy does not have the frame that Clausen has, but he’s a high character that throws with great accuracy.  That, plus guys of his size have proven that they can win in the NFL.  Just look at Drew Brees, who hoisted the Lombardi Trophy a few short months ago.

Still, on top of any great debate, there’s also a coach that has enough arrogance of his own.  That coach feels that he can turn any talent into an elite talent.

Therefore, expect someone to use a high pick on Jimmy Clausen.

It just wouldn’t be me.

The question remains – would it be you?


* Also posted to KP’s Bleacher Report account

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  1. admin April 23, 2010 at 9:47 AM

    AERO and REV–

    I look pretty good on this post after what happened last night, with Clausen not going in the first round. It’s a rarity so I have to enjoy it while I can… ha ha.

    I did expect Clausen to fall some, but I didn’t really expect him to fall farther than Rodgers and Quinn ever did… he’ll go somewhere early in the 2nd round though – just trying to figure out which team pulls the trigger. I bet a few are in the mix right now, for sure.

  2. aero March 22, 2010 at 10:29 AM

    I wonder where he would have gone in the draft if he had played at Tennessee like his brothers.

  3. Chris Humpherys March 22, 2010 at 9:20 AM

    I don’t know. Did Joe Montana’s success in the NFL help Brady Quinn’s draft status?

    I don’t think there’s any denying the golden helmet helps kids get a recognizable draft edge. Heck, if the owners are Irish Catholic or if any of the coaching staff have ties to the University, then kids leaving South Bend will have a distinct advantage… but the same can be said anywhere.

    I agree with you. I don’t think Quinn’s lack of success will have any bearing on Claussen. He’s his own guy. Different QB, different styles.

    War rooms will recognize that.

    How about this one? With Alex Smith’s success questionable and people now wondering about Tebow at the next level, if Urban Meyer doesn’t switch his offensive game-planning, will NFL teams no longer want to draft HIS quarterbacks?

    After all, how many successful QBs did Spurrier put into the league?

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